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Charge Forward Rewind: The Biggest Breakthroughs, Boldest Moves & What it takes to Win

• Jim Cripps • Season 2 • Episode 6

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  • Quinton Horner – From brain surgery in college to leading as a closing attorney & fixer at Wagon Wheel Title.
  • Dr. Rolly Lagutin (via El Lagutin) – A father’s ultimate sacrifice: leaving behind his medical career in the Philippines to start over in America for his family.
  • Chris Neville – How an AT&T tech turned corporate sales leader launched a drone videography business to transform sports.
  • Anna DiCarlo – Redefining holistic skincare & wellness, balancing entrepreneurship, motherhood, and healing.
  • Steve & Bre Price – Military veterans turned health entrepreneurs, creating Libertas Cryo & Radiant Roots to transform pain management & recovery.
  • James Cripps & Don Smith – Unpacking the VA system, veterans’ rights, and the fight for benefits they deserve.
  • Janis Lasmanis – From security detail for Eminem & Prince Charles to building Nashville’s premier exotic car detailing business.
  • Miles & Jill Reidelberger– The impact of a supportive spouse gives you the strength to persevere and Thrive in Life!
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Jim Cripps:

If you've missed some episodes, if you're just now tuning in and you want to get a little taste of the amazing guests and the stories and nuggets that they have shared, well, that's what we're going to give you on this episode. This is your one-stop shop for all the fantastic things that happened on the Charge Forward podcast. Please enjoy. I'm sure there's some money out there. Just send a chat, what's up. It's $58 a month.

Steve Price:

Dude. Look at the money. It hurts to hear all the charges.

Jim Cripps:

What can you think about? You know it's the highest you can talk to. The spirit of the Charge Forward podcast is really that of people that default to charging forward, getting it done when other people give up. And you know, I'm sure there's somebody out there that has just been sunshine and rainbows their entire life. Um, but you know, you know I think back on it and, um, you know, one of the most challenging things is I see you go, uh, you go to Alabama, which is, you know, rockstar. You wanted to go to Alabama as a school. You get down there and, uh, am I thinking right that this is your junior or senior year and have to have a brain surgery.

Quinton Horner:

Oh yeah, my senior senior year. Uh, it's kind of talk about something that comes out of the blue, right. Uh, before I went back from my senior year, my dad, who had had an aneurysm, said why don't you just go get a precautionary MRI? And I did in August and they found something about the size of a P? Um no symptoms, no headaches, no nothing. So I got another one when I was home for Thanksgiving that that year and it was the size of a golf ball. Still no side effects, no symptoms, no nothing. So they knew, they knew what it was and that I would have surgery over Christmas. So that was an interesting Christmas break on December 23rd. At what? 22 years old to have brain surgery right before Christmas. But yeah, that was a story to tell for sure.

Jim Cripps:

Well, and you know, one of the things that sticks out in my head is what it was for 24, 48 hours. You really could only say three words, and we don't want to use them here on the air, but there were three of the cuss words and that was about it for the first two days.

Quinton Horner:

Yeah, it's interesting, and everybody kind of knew that's what it was, I guess the swelling of your brain when oxygen hits it. But yeah, I started with yep, nope and shit. But yeah, I started with yep, nope and shit, yep, and built everything back up from there. So there was my foundation.

Jim Cripps:

Well, and I think the other thing, too, that I find just amazing is that he was a doctor there, yeah, and really had to come here and start all over.

El Lagutin:

He really did, and you know, that's a cool story in itself. He went to med school in the Philippines, graduated top of his class, um, which is, you know, to think about that now is incredible, right, like you have to be wicked smart to do that. And my dad was um. And then he did his residency on Claire Clark Air Force Base, um there in the Philippines. And you know, the Air Force came to his med medical school and, hey, if you do your residency here, we'll give you an avenue to get to the United States. And he did that.

El Lagutin:

And so he did that, came to the United States and when he got here, found out, you know, he is not a licensed physician in the United States and so he just had a new baby and needed to figure that out. And so his first job was um in California. So we, when they moved here, um, I was born in Oakland, california, um. And so his first job in the United States was counting baskets, coming off ships, um, doing that. And then he shined shoes, you know, going from being a doctor in the Philippines, you know, to coming to the United States and not having anything.

Breanna Price:

When Steve got decided he was going to finally start addressing his health and his pain management stuff, I think it was kind of like a floodgate situation. There's a lot of people who talk about it a little bit more. Um, some people will call it operator syndrome and some people will just not name it, but there's a lot of people that, um, when they have a high intensity job whether it's special forces, whether it's a combat job in the military, even if it's not combat combat, a first responder style situation when they come out of that high stress situation, their body is still ramped up and producing the cortisol to be able to get through and manage that. And there are a lot of people who struggle with mental health issues coming out of that and being able to calm their bodies down.

Breanna Price:

And we noticed that with Steve, where he just he was having fun. He calls it having fun. It's not fun for me, but everything he did was very high intensity, high stress. And then when he stopped that, it came to a grinding halt. We left our whole community. We were going through IVF and infertility treatments and then he also went to a desk job at that same time and it was like opening the floodgates of wow, what's going on with my body? He did. He tried to do everything that he was told to do by the doctors.

Steve Price:

Which is not normal, which is not normal.

Breanna Price:

He never does what he's told. And it just seemed to make the situation worse. And then, with the health issues that I was having and the infertility and the losses with IVF, and my health kept getting worse and I still same thing kept doing everything I was supposed to do, everything that I was told to do with the doctor's orders and common Western medicine, and it just made the situation worth. And it was early 2020, before all the fun craziness in 2020. Um, we decided that we were just going to start stepping back and addressing our health in the best way that we knew how, and we were.

Breanna Price:

We did a ton of research and we um, tried a bunch of different things and found what worked for each of us individually, and I think that's part of how it came to me creating my business and then Steve creating his is the bio-individual approach, like cold plunge is a great example. Cold plunge is awesome for Steve. It's great for him. It made my migraines worse, but I had cryotherapy, which it's a cold therapy. You think it would be the same? Sure, but it actually made my migraines better. So that was part of the reason why we added so many modalities to our shop is we wanted to be able to meet people where they were at and help as much as we could help the individual person with their individual problems.

Jim Cripps:

Yeah, absolutely. Well, you know, the great news is uh, emmett, is is proof that you guys healed right. Or in in the process of healing. You know, I think, I think it's a full-time, uh endeavor as we get older, to make sure that we're, uh, we're, we're putting our best physical self forward and taking care of that.

Breanna Price:

Yeah, no, and being able to work on the healing and feel better in my own body also makes me a better mom. I mean thinking back to when I was at that peak desperation and just fresh off a loss with IVF my body wasn't healthy, I wasn't healthy, my mind wasn't healthy, and thinking about how exhausting it is to have a kid. Now I'm really glad that I took the effort to work on some of those foundational things because I'm able to be as patient as possible, more patient, more present. I'm able to enjoy the moments and not get stuck in that sadness cycle. So I think that's a really powerful thing of everybody. Everybody has their own journey and everybody has something different that will work for them. But to lean into that and listen to your body and it's worth the effort of trying to heal from a foundational aspect.

Jim Cripps:

Absolutely. And so what were, what were some key things that that you did um, that that led to you guys being able to conceive?

Breanna Price:

A lot of things Well.

Steve Price:

Jim, I just kept climbing up there. I don't think they understand. But no, it was a lot of different things. It was a lot of teamwork in order to do it?

Breanna Price:

Is it teamwork to conceive?

Steve Price:

Well, in addressing our individual and our group, our couple of medical requirements in order to do that, you know, and thenet Foundation that we were able to meet other people and hear stories, or the benefit from the Donovan and Baines Foundation, where they paid for us to go get, uh, stellate ganglia block and then, uh, brie wasn't able to get this but as a part of that treatment I was able to do ketamine therapy and, in conjunction with that, and uh, so you know, all these different uh organizations helping us and other people helping us and us also taking the time to to try to address some things really helped us out yeah, well, you know, I think globally, um, the ability to like fertility is a problem.

Jim Cripps:

it's a growing problem, uh, you know, and you could argue it's because of the chemicals, it's because of how we live our lives. I mean all types of things, even even just the the way society views masculinity or classic feminine femininity. Um, you know, it is, uh, it's, it's very concerning, um, and so I think this is a great time and space, for there's a lot of people right now that are wondering are we going to be able to conceive? You know, they may be six months in, or 12 months in, or or years in, and and, and they're kind of at a loss because they've done everything that you know Western medicine says is the right thing, and they're, they're still striking out or they're still having, uh, those very taxing, uh, failures that that hit so close to home. How did you get into Reiki and the holistic side of healing and natural products? You know, obviously they all kind of mesh together, but how did it start?

Anna DiCarlo:

So LaBelle came first. Well, technically, the spiritual side came first, but we'll start with LaBelle. Labelle came first because my daughter had chemically induced eczema. Not knowing what it was. I had a pediatrician who decided to help me because not giving her baths and just hoping she grows out of it was not a good enough answer for me. So, being first time mom, you know you want to do everything right and so I signed to my baby you know all the baby sign language and, um, just trying to help her with her leg.

Anna DiCarlo:

I had no idea what chemically induced eczema was and it's just the chemicals within anything that sits on a shelf. It doesn't matter if it's natural, organic, pure, doesn't matter if it sits on a shelf, it has to have a chemical. So, um, hearing that I'm like, well, what I would like? I'm not going to not give her baths, right, or I'm not going to just sit and hope that she gets better. So what I didn't know is my pediatrician at the time also pressed, practiced holistic medicine on the side with his family. So he helped me to formulate, know how to research, know where to grab information, what to look for, what oils not to use on babies, because baby skin is different than adults, all the things that we don't think about or we don't know about, he informed me about. And so I came up with my first product, which was a body butter. And you know, when I started. A holistic and natural product is not new. Okay, people have been doing it forever. Okay, so we just repeat the cycle. Okay, so me doing that? Um, I knew it wasn't profound, it just happened to help her, right, and so I took her back. It was gone and he was like this is great, what have you been using? And I said, well, I formulated this. He goes. Well, that's amazing, you know. And I said, yeah, now I'm going to work on soap, because that's what I wash her with, right? That makes sense. So I started with the soap process. I couldn't go on Etsy or Pinterest or all these other places that now have information, and I say like that because it's not proper information, it's just information. But anyway, I went through and did that and all of a sudden, her legs were great and her skin was beautiful and there was no more issue. Well, then I had a friend who was like hey, my son has this on his leg. They can't find anything. They're giving me steroids for it. Can you help? Sure, here have some. And I just kind of did that.

Anna DiCarlo:

But then I was giving away so much that it started eating away at our you know our income and at that time we were one whole, like one household income. So my husband was working but I wasn't. I was home with her cause she had a lot of medical problems. She, you know um, had acid reflux, really bad, so when she ate she had a chance of choking on it and it was just a whole thing. She is my worry child, um. But yeah, so I started with that and it just kind of flourished into a business.

Anna DiCarlo:

Within a year of starting I was already looking at doing a storefront. I went to go do a storefront and I found out that that same daughter had um, had hearing loss, and I was like, well, what, what is, what is this Like, what is? And apparently we had taken her to um a mommy's day out program at a church and we loved it there. But one of the teachers was like, do you ever notice if she's not looking at you? She's doesn't pay attention. I'm like no, I didn't. She's my only child. She looks at me all the time like there's nothing you know.

Anna DiCarlo:

So, anyway, we take her in, super long story short. We take her in, they find out that, yes, she doesn't have hearing in her ears. Right, she is minimal. You have to, like, scream at her for her to hear and, um, if she's not looking at you, well, here she'd been reading my lips and with baby sign, she'd been able to figure things out. So she was farther along than somebody who was completely deaf, um, but as they were trying to find a reason for why she didn't have hearing, they found a tumor behind her eye.

Anna DiCarlo:

So neurosurgery was in our path. And so, when she was three and a half, um, I was already pregnant with the second one and we found out it was a genetic issue. My husband holds a gene, I hold a gene and that's 25% chance we'll have a deaf child. And, of course, I was already pregnant. I'm like great, like what is? Is this one going to be dead? You know, I all these crazy things. At that point we were moving from Murfreesboro to where we are now in Chapman's boroughs, and then I don't even remember the process for that, um that was the least of your worries.

Anna DiCarlo:

Yes, because then I'd had my second child my you know first was going in for neurosurgery. So of course I shut down my business and that's where that I was being beaten right, or it felt like I was being defeated, and I took a year off of that, didn't open my storefront because we moved and you know, I had a new baby and I had a daughter that had neurosurgery. And then a year later I reopened. I had $200 and I said I'm either going to make it or break it. And here I am.

Jim Cripps:

There you go, and that was roughly 10 years ago, right.

James Cripps:

When I was 18 years old probably when you was 18 years old, Don we joined the military. I think Don was drafted, but it didn't make any difference, we both went.

Jim Cripps:

Right, you were going one way or the other.

James Cripps:

Yeah, I made $87 a month. Don probably made a little less because he was a year too ahead of me. Yeah, so $78 a month, $78 a month, yeah, you think about that. You know what can you buy with that? My wife had to move back in with her parents when I was deployed overseas. No way, with that kind of pay, could we afford for her to.

James Cripps:

So then I get out of the military and I've got these disabilities and I don't know where they came from and I've got to make a living and I've got to raise my kids and I've got to support a living and I've got to raise my kids and I've got to support my family all these years trying to make a living with these disabilities. So it's a lot harder for me to make my living than it is the average Joe walking down the street and I go like that for more than 40 years. They can't pay me enough money to make up for all of that. Right, I did raise my family. I owned my own business, but I had to work a lot harder on account of my disabilities.

Jim Cripps:

Now you're most recent putting your toe into the entrepreneurial world. So how did you get associated with FlyRoute? How did you come up and decide that that was what you wanted to do? You know obviously a big step to take, and you've already got some pretty good clients out there.

Chris Neville:

Yeah, so that's an interesting process because it's one of these. I got to explain a little journey too, where, you know, through my current role with DirecTV and I'm looking, I'm responsible for business development and ROI and all these sales productivity goals with all these partners of DirecTV I realized real quick that I wasn't taking my own advice, I wasn't listening to myself. Corporate sales leader this guy that's teaching and developing all these entrepreneurs to be smarter when it comes to marketing, how, how they're, you know, utilizing all their sales tactics, things like that and I wasn't taking my own advice. So I actually, um, as, as I was looking in, wanting to find this passion or purpose again, I was like, you know, I need to get back engaged with my alma mater, my schools and football specific. That's kind of my love and passion, football. But so social media is a powerful tool, right, and I was on social media. There's a staffing head coach change at Wilson Central, my alma mater. So I owe a lot of my success in life to Wilson Central, for sure, as a school and a program.

Chris Neville:

But uh, yeah, I saw that they were using drone technology right to process game film and practice and scrimmages and things like that, and it was beyond enticing and and mesmerizing in my mind, like, like the first my. My mind first went to the competitive advantage, right, um, how that provides value to coaches and athletes, and and secondarily, it was more like that's cool, I don't, I don't, I don't, it doesn't matter what you say, that's cool and it's. It's as sports have has, technology has evolved and sports have evolved that now there's a, there's a merge between drone aviation, right, or drone videography and sports and it's yeah. So it was fascinating and I just wanted to learn, learn, learn, learn, learn. Went to their social media accounts and and or and followed them and then I saw one day they post uh, now accepting or expansion I can't remember the verbiage, but they were. They posted that they were looking for entrepreneur-minded, strong business leaders that wanted to partner and become a service provider in a different market. They're based out of Denver, colorado. So I did that Seven months later, just approved, went through this interview you know the process and the onboarding process and the validation process and was fortunate enough to launch FlyRoute Nashville back in April.

Chris Neville:

Okay, so how's that going so far? It's going great so far. I mean I can't. I got to give a shout out to Colin and Michael, the founder of Fly Route headquarters in Denver, and then, obviously, to Michael and the team. Colin and Michael and the team they're second to none man. They've said they've made this process so seamless and easy for me to be able to be co-aligned, vision wise and strategy wise on how we want to execute on the business plan and how we me to be able to be co-aligned, vision-wise and strategy-wise on how we want to execute on the business plan and how we want to scale. And it all boils down to client customer service. Right? How do we provide the best videography, the best professional drone videography service in this small niche market? Right? Basically, it's a small demographic of coaches and athletic directors that we're marketing to but for the most part, if I'm understanding this correctly, the market's not saturated.

Jim Cripps:

No, there's like you're. Usually, if you're coming in sitting down with them, you're the first one that they're considering, absolutely. And it's kind of like. I look back 30 years ago, maybe more than that, and I remember when I was started selling cell phones, I was selling cell phones to people that didn't have cell phones yet. That was way easier than it is today, when everybody's already got one Right, and so you know, I think you being first to market in that regard is pretty huge.

Chris Neville:

Yeah, and especially in this market too. And again shout out to Colin and Michael for from being able to acquire clients and or express um or, you know, obtain right, a need in a different market, right from Denver to Nashville How's that connection? That's crazy, right. And then for someone like me to be able to see it and then obviously be accepted into their vision and partnership, right, yeah. And it's definitely where FlyRoute is an industry leader, right. There's no other professional drone videography service out there that offers and markets what we do and executes like we do.

Chris Neville:

It's just plain and simple no-transcript.

Janis Lasmanis:

I started to kind of pace things together and I started running into some problems. How do you clean the carpet? What kind of chemicals do you use? So obviously, youtube certified the honest. And then I see all these guys with these amazing shops, all the shops that I have now, that's right, all the lights and R8s and Ferraris and all this stuff, and some of them are owners and operators and stuff, and I really enjoyed doing it.

Janis Lasmanis:

And it started to kind of put, like, you know, almost like a little business plan together. I'm like, look, I've got nothing to do anyway. Might as well just do a little market research. So I called around you know what would it cost to you know detail, I don't know, a C-class Mercedes, like 200 bucks. You know, I'm like, damn, that's a lot of money. Yeah, you know what I mean. That's still a lot of money. So I started a Facebook page, went to AutoZone with about $200 in my pocket. I had like some sort of shop vac already and like an $80 power washer, yeah. And then I bought, you know, a glass cleaner, spray, wax, some rags, you know, and I put a couple of posts up on on. You know, there's like local, I don't know local franklin buy and sell, just put up, like you know. Come to your house for 150 bucks or 125 dollars. Yeah, clean your car.

Janis Lasmanis:

And my first car was an escalade. It was pre-used but, um, she bought it used second hand and the detail, uh, the the detail department at dealership didn't do a great job. She's like it's a two-year-old car but it still looks like crap. Yeah, so she's like I'm gonna get them to pay for it. Can you come to my house and dude like I could have finished that car half an hour but kind of had to drag it off at least like two. You know it's just dusty. So I did that. She gave me 150 and 150 tip, okay, and I was like well, yeah, she's gonna get the dealership to pay for it.

Janis Lasmanis:

Yeah, yeah, I'm like she's like, can you send me an invoice? I'm like, sure, I don't have an invoice, but I figured it out, you know. Just download one, you know, google it Because she had the invoice, the dealership, but yeah, I was like 300 bucks. I'm like I could have done. I know what reacts with everything. You know how it works and yeah, the rest is kind of history, you know.

Janis Lasmanis:

So I then started to, you know, start to advertise more. Then I created a Google profile, started a website yeah, obviously started LSC and then I got involved in a couple like local cars and coffee groups as well. I was there every Sunday and I still remember there's one cars and coffee groups as well. I was there every Sunday and I still remember there's one cars and coffee in Dallas Landing. There was usually three of us on a Sunday Three, yeah, because it was like I don't know if it's snowing. Everybody's like now, every Sunday, there's about 1,500 cars. Yeah, I'm like, damn, no, I mean it was good. So, yeah, you know, and just getting local trust and everything. And then when I started to get more cars and more bookings, then I hired a buddy of mine who didn't know how to vacuum a car and I'll teach him all the ways and everything. Sure, so that was my first employee. Then I have another one.

Janis Lasmanis:

Then I moved into the shop. I was renting kind of like a shop space. Then we had our own shop and then things started to evolve. We started to subcontract a couple things, like you know, window tinting and stuff, and then I opened a place in florida, in orlando, and then, uh, and then, yeah, our house flooded, oh wow, yeah, it's just a pipe burst that you know, we're going to a super bowl party for two days. Come back and there's like water coming out of garage, like. But we rented, it was good.

Janis Lasmanis:

So that was my, that was my wife's time to pull out of Virginia, because she grew up there, she didn't want to live there. So we kind of just traveled around. I was like baby, I just started this business, I just started stacking money. We got married as well. So we got married here and we also got married in Latvia, which is a beautiful wedding that I paid for as well, and I was really happy that I had the opportunity. You know, like you know, family helped me before and now we got married in Palace which was built for Russian Tsar's wife. Oh my God, you can't even get married there. But my grandfather, he was a big shot, you know. So he pulled that off, so it was beautiful. So then all of a sudden, we got married and come back and she'm like where? Like I don't know, I know 10 people at the time in America, you know.

Janis Lasmanis:

So we went to North Carolina, went to LA, to Vegas, you know, and I'm like this doesn't make sense. I was like you know, do you know anybody? Like in Nashville? No, let's check it out there. So we came out here, partied, obviously, for two days. That was great, you know, downtown, yeah, broadway, oh great time. And like you know, when you focus on like let's say something, I don't know, you focus on a white van. You know, that's all you see on the street. So I kind of looked around. I'm like, yeah, I just see some shitty cars here. You know, I don't know, can I make money? Yeah, bear in mind, this is, you know, no offense like nashville's cool. But before, before I knew it, I'm like this is t, you know, and I was in Loudoun County, which is richest county in America. Then all of a sudden I see all these beaters around, and then I came and then, yeah, she was still in a bed. We all hang over, but I was, I just.

Virgil Herring :

I was just like, let me just go and check out Nashville cars and coffee, and I was like holy mackerel probably one of the most critical, intangible pieces of somebody that you want in your life is the person who doesn't give up, the person that keeps fighting and giving up and not to keep fighting. That can be interesting. It depends on how somebody wants to look at that word, because sometimes if you end a relationship, it's not quitting, it's moving forward, right. And you, you have to accept that there are some people in your life that are here for chapters and there's some people that are here for volumes, and some people here for your entire life. Sure, right, you just have to get really good at deciding who's a chapter, who's a volume and who's an entirety, and each particular one ultimately ends up shaping you into who you're going to be.

Virgil Herring :

So not be judgmental about a relationship that comes and goes, but to use it as a stepping stone for the next place that you're trying to go, or where God has got your hand in taking you. You had to experience that he doesn't make any mistakes. That's right, right. Make any mistakes, that's right, right. So, even though it feels painful that this person's no longer in your life, one way or the other, you had to go through that because the next one's going to be more impactful, and anything that you glean from the previous allows you to be more successful in the future, and that's really what it takes to be great at anything you do you know along the way, whether we're talking about you know your your time in sports there at Wilson Central, whether we're talking about your time in college or then Vanderbilt or then back in Illinois.

Jim Cripps:

I mean, obviously you popped around a bit and that's just kind of the nature of the beast, but who would you say has been some of your top mentors along the way?

Chris Neville:

Top mentors would have to be a couple, really. There's a my high school coach, his coach duane alexander, was the the first that was able to kind of establish a connection with me and be able to instill these values and principles of like. To this day I still I live by this. As you know, in high school we use the terminology reap what you sow, sow. It's just the way it works right, and especially in sports and in that environment, that's how I've lived my life, my entire life. I've also had you know, I was fortunate enough that Coach Alexander was able to come to Cumberland as well, so I played for him as well.

Jim Cripps:

Oh that's cool.

Chris Neville:

Yeah, and so he's been the biggest mentor and you know inspiration throughout my athletics life and inspiration throughout my athletics life Throughout strength and conditioning and the collegiate experience. I could name three or four, but the majority of at that level, at the Division I level, almost every coach is an inspiration, right, especially when you're green and you're new into the industry. There's a reason why they're there. Absolutely. They're not just volunteers like me at baseball, right, they don't just run the sticks on Friday night, right, they're there for a reason and they're obviously that Division I level, ncaa professional. So taking little pieces of all of those guys and learning and truly being a sponge and a master of the game, right and coaching and leadership, that's how I've determined a lot of things and there's probably four or five different guys I can name, but that's on the athletic side.

Chris Neville:

On tying everything together, the biggest inspiration for me and what I listen to the most and the most content that I consume, would be a gentleman named Andy Fursella. Are you familiar with him? I'm not. No, he runs a podcast himself. He's actually the CEO of uh. It's called first form. It's a supplement company, so I am familiar with first form First form is.

Chris Neville:

His company also runs a bunch I'm sure five, six, seven, eight, 25 other businesses, right, but uh, his content relates to me, cause we have very similar energy. Uh, we, I think that you know, and also, too, he's a he's a pretty cut throat, straight to the point guy Like hey, it is what it is, it's cut and dry, you like it, you like it If you don't change the channel, that's right, you know, and so I admire that. And um, yeah, so those are the guys that make the impact for me every day.

Jim Cripps:

Um, in that space. Who? Who's been a mentor to you?

Anna DiCarlo:

Oh my goodness, in the spiritual space.

Jim Cripps:

Well, all of it.

Anna DiCarlo:

All of it, okay. The LBN part of it is me myself and I, mm-hmm, I always strive to do better to help somebody that maybe doesn't know they need help, right, or people that are looking for other options, and I think all options are necessary, right, you do what you can. There's good, better, best. I consider LBN part of the best category, but I'm sure there's somebody out there that's just as you know what I mean. Like, there's, for me, it's not about the competition, it's about who I'm helping, right, how many people can I reach? How many people can I change their minds? How many people can we enlighten, bring back the self, any one of those things minds? How many people can we enlighten, bring back to self any one of those things? Um, lbn was me myself and I for the spiritual realm. Um, that one's funny. Uh.

Anna DiCarlo:

So currently I work with a I like to call us mastermind group, right, because we lift each other up. There there's zero competition. We each can do what everybody else does, but we specialize in certain things, right? So we've got Michelle, who does a lot of the physical body, she does the ozone, she does Reiki as well. She's able to do medical Reiki. So while she's doing it. She's like oh, your liver, like, let's check on your liver, let's do X, y and Z right. And she's like oh, your liver, let's check on your liver, let's do X, y and Z right. And I had a client reach out to me and she's like ozone seems too good. It's a clinic in our house. How good can it be right? I said whoa, whoa, first off, check yourself, you're judging right.

Anna DiCarlo:

This is pure judgment. You're uncomfortable because it's not in a doctor setting. What's the difference? Just the office Like what's actually a difference? And she didn't really tell me and I was like, okay, well, she is a nurse practitioner, so by the state of Tennessee she's recognized to be a nurse practitioner. I said, but she's also a functional medicine nurse, so you have the best of both worlds, right, she can prescribe you Z-Pak, but then also bang it up with all these extra like ozone and herbal remedies and whatever right.

Jim Cripps:

It's like the best of both worlds.

Anna DiCarlo:

Absolutely it is. And then, um, you know, she's somebody that I go to. I have my other close friend. She's pretty much like a sister at this point, but Christy is her name and she's a emotional coder.

El Lagutin:

And I learned this from my dad. So my dad had two really good friends who were also mentors to him Dr Weathers, who has passed, also mentors to him. Um, dr Weathers, who's who's has passed um and um. And another doctor of his friend, dr Dressler. Um, they, they were really good, you know, mentors to dad. They they showed him you know how to how to help build a practice or you know how to how to survive in Chattanooga, knew the United States and you know I'll always be grateful to watch them, take dad under his wing, and I think I have three mentors that I've, you know, kind of cling to. One is James Sella.

Janis Lasmanis:

You know him. Yeah, you know yeah.

El Lagutin:

So he's been a great mentor to me, business wise, um, he helped me a lot, uh, when I'm transitioned from inside sales to outside sales. Um, he really kind of took me under his wing and and kind of showed me the ropes on that. And then, um, dan, um, he, he was with Sprint as well. He was out of Memphis, he passed a few years back and he was probably one of my biggest mentors. And then I think you know, me and you being friends, I think, the way that we raise our kids together and we talk about family and family first. I think me and you are good mentors to each other, you know, and I think that's helpful.

Jim Cripps:

Yeah, bouncing ideas off of somebody that you think you know doesn't not have exactly the same opinion as you do, but it also is a good enough friend to tell you when you're out of bounds. Yeah, you know, because there's a lot of people that will disagree with you because they don't want conflict. Those are not your real friends. Your real friends will call you out on your mess.

El Lagutin:

Yeah, to be older than you or they don't, you know, and that's really not the case. I think that if you have to be some, you have to surround yourself with like-minded individuals that will also call you out on your crap, right? And so I think that's the kind of friendships that you need in life and that turn into mentors, right? And so I think, in today's world, the past few years for me is is we've become really good friends. Our wives hang out together a lot, and it's the Gary Meadows, um, he's probably you know the guy that I turned to. Now, like, his kids are older. His youngest is Lucy's age and his oldest is 24, 25.

El Lagutin:

Um, and to see him walk through that life with his boys, um, has helped me figure out how to walk through life with my boy, right, and so, um, he he's been a great friend. And um, when things aren't going my way, he's the first to call me out and be like life's not that way, man, it's not always going to go your way, you know, buck up, you know. And so it's like, um, he's been a really good mentor to me here lately. Um, my best friend for the past, my whole life, is Jeremy Um, you know him, um, we worked together for a little while and um he, he's always been a great mentor to me.

Jim Cripps:

Well, and I think it's. I know it's overused, it's a cliche, but it goes back to that to me. Well, and I think it's. I know it's overused, it's a cliche, but it goes back to that. The mentality of things aren't happening to me, they're happening for me, and even the tough stuff, even the things you've got to work through, they're the things that create those moments that you, that you remember for the rest of your life. Yeah, so it's just a mental switch.

Virgil Herring :

It really is. And I think mentors, people like it's so important to have for me I want to be, I want to surround myself with people that are either older than me or in the place that I'm trying to be, because they had to go through where I'm going through. And if they are, they have things to offer. And when you hear other people's struggles and they're at the place you want to be and you don't realize all the pain that they went through to get to that place, then you realize that what you're going through is the process of what it takes. Not like I got feet on my head, nobody wants me to rise. It's like, oh, this is what it takes to be great. This level of perseverance, this level of grit, this level, the level of resiliency those things are oftentimes easier to hear from a person much older than you or somebody that's in the place you're trying to go, because you're like, oh wow, so it wasn't that easy for you either. Right Cause you make it look easy.

Jim Cripps:

I think too and, like we talked about, this comes up in almost every episode you had backing from your spouse. You know, in that you were supporting him making a big change, and also when you were growing a clinic, he was supporting you, and so you guys are supporting each other. Definitely reciprocated yeah. And so, in your opinion, you know you guys have been together. What 20 years, right? Just celebrate our 20th anniversary. Well, congratulations, that's fantastic, and you've got two great kids, thank you. You know Branch and.

Jim Cripps:

Cass will hang out all the time. How impactful to your life, or how much of your success do you think is attributed to the fact that you got the right spouse, that you picked correctly and you were? Supporting each other. Do you want to answer?

Miles Reidelberger :

this. Well, I just want to point out I don't think it's necessarily the success of the businesses. I think it's uh, uh led to my happiness, like if I didn't have the right spouse. I mean, I see what some of these uh couples go through and we even say to each other like thank god, I'm happy, I, I hope she's happy, but uh god, entering the dating scene again or something like that.

Jill Reidelberger :

Well, you know sex is important and we prioritize that in our lives. Hey, that's, it's part of it really and you know, I think that we have two businesses. But making our marriage a priority is something we said at the beginning. We said we said that we didn't want to be in business together if it meant that it was going to compromise our marriage. So we have to. We always make it a priority to set time aside for ourselves.

Miles Reidelberger :

And she's better than I am, but she'll be like no, you're spending time with me today, and thank God she does, because that's how it works. That's good, that's fantastic.

Jim Cripps:

Cause. Yeah, that's that's how it works, that's good, that's fantastic. It wasn't by design, but when we, when you think about people who charge forward and people who default to leaning in when other people would give up, um, a lot of times it's because they have a supportive spouse. Yeah, and so for you and Jen, what do you? What do you think? Like, how important has the fact that you found each other been to your lives?

El Lagutin:

You know, if it wasn't for Jen I will tell you this I wouldn't be in the seat that I am today. I wouldn't have the life that I've got today, Right? So, um, you know me, I'm, I'm very, um, I like to take chances or I like to take risks. Um, sometimes they're not good, Sometimes they're great, Um, but if it wasn't for Jen to kind of keep me anchored down at times, um, I, I, I definitely wouldn't be where I am today. But if it wasn't for Jen, I also wouldn't be as successful as I am today. Right, Because there's there's different challenges that we face that she's like we need to take this opportunity and run with it, Like moving back to Chattanooga, or you're not happy in doing this day to day stuff.

El Lagutin:

Let's look at other options. You know, I wouldn't have the education that I've got today without Jennifer, Um and so, and I think our kids aren't who they are if it wasn't for both of us. Um, so you know, I think, choosing a spouse or me choosing Jennifer I don't ever want to say it that way Um, because luckily, she chose me. I didn't get to choose her, Um, it was by luck that we were, we've met Um and we, you know she picked me, uh, out of everybody, and so to me that means more than anything um at all, Cause I don't want to say that I picked her cause that's definitely not the choice.

Jim Cripps:

You know the answer to that sure, sure, well, I think we're both just incredibly fortunate. We have great families and it starts with uh, you know great parents that gave you a foundation and you know leading your dad. You're living your dad's example. And then, um, and then having the luck and the good fortune and the I say it this way your picker wasn't broke, or her picker wasn't broke, and to have a spouse selection is such a big deal to the overall happiness of life.

Chris Neville:

I mean, I think that it's absolutely imperative that you're finding the right spouse to support you right. And creating life and creating a family is important to be able to have a solid foundation to build upon right. And I can't commend my spouse, kayla, enough to be able to support me and my crazy ideas and my crazy. You know my high energy and high, you know, mental capacity. We'll call it and you know I never thought we'll call it and you know I never, never, never thought we'd be where we're at and I'm fortunate that we are. And you know I can't. Yeah, it's a hundred percent. We wouldn't be able to build anything without that foundation.

Jim Cripps:

Well, I think we're both lucky in that regard, because my wife will tell you I'm too much, so am I, and mine is. You know, emily is just steady. And. I think Kayla is very much the same for you, absolutely, and it's that balance right.

Chris Neville:

Yep, she's cool, calm and collected. I'm the highly motivated move, move, move, go, go go. Ask questions later, make it happen, yeah.

Steve Price:

That's awesome man. That's awesome Having arguments and disagreements. It's not necessarily a bad thing. Especially if you learn how to fight the right way, it can be really good Um okay, please expand on that, cause I love that.

Jim Cripps:

Nobody's ever said that before. If you learn how to fight the right way, yeah, I mean you.

Steve Price:

You have to. I mean, just getting an argument with somebody or having a disagreement isn't bad, especially when and when you're in that fight. If you're not, if you're trying to actually resolve conflict and not actually attack that person you're in conflict with, then you can both come out of it better, with a, with clear understanding or with a path forward that works for everybody. I mean, if you and so if you fight the right way, you know people can come out of that situation in a better place that they entered it. Now you fight the wrong way by attacking. If you don't care about winning, or if you don't care about actually resolving the conflict, but all you care about is causing more damage to that person than they cause to you, then you're all going to lose in that situation. But fighting can be good for couples if it's done correctly, with the right mindset and desired outcome.

Breanna Price:

You want me to tell the wine glass story.

Steve Price:

I'd love the wine glass, all right.

Breanna Price:

Oh man, humility is a that's a big part of marriage, jeez. So we've both been at least on the same page of avoiding debt for all of our marriage and knowing each other even before knowing him. We've both been at least on the same page of avoiding debt for all of our marriage and knowing each other even before knowing him.

Steve Price:

Even though Dave Ramsey is a curse word to you.

Breanna Price:

Yes, and the nasty B word, oh my God. Um, but even before marriage I uh I mean, I joined the military. I didn't. I knew I knew school was a thing I knew I wanted to do it. Um, I knew school was a thing I knew I wanted to do it. My family was poor, we had no money and I knew that that was an avenue where I could do that. And then there was Sense of Purpose. That came after that, but I was homeless twice because I was so desperate to avoid debt at any cost. I was not willing to do it. So we have the same desire to avoid being controlled by money, even at the expense of housing. But we're newly married, trying to learn how we want to communicate and how we want to use that nasty budget word and how that looks for us, and I've always seen a budget as a way to control someone and nobody's going to control me and we had set our budget.

Breanna Price:

We were on the same page, we were doing our so when we set a budget, non-negotiables for us is housing, food, tithes Um, and we, for us, specifically, we want to give to God before we give to the government. So that's like we've got to put effort into making sure we tithe um that aligns with what our vision and our values are, and so all of those things, all the numbers were set, we were on board and we both had our daily monthly spend for our budget and I had already spent mine, of course, and I was still not doing very well with that, and it was because I kept approaching it of he was trying to control me and he wasn't, but I wasn't seeing that.

Breanna Price:

So we had to have a fight about that. Um, but we were in Macy's and I saw these cute wine glasses. They were $19. They were these like clear with pretty crystal etching or whatever on them and there were $19. It does not matter. But also we, we had gone past what we agreed upon and I picked it up and I said I want these wine glasses and Steve and I got into a fight in the store and my best friend was like, oh my God, I got to get out of here, cause she was still new to knowing us at the time. She walked away.

Breanna Price:

We didn't get the wine glasses. I got them a few years later, out of spite, um, and then they ended up every single one ended up getting broken somehow, while Steve was washing them. But but, uh, that I mean, that's a perfect example of we. We had a fight about it because I thought he was controlling me and, um, that's not what it was. We were, we set, we set an intention for our life. We set our vision. We both agreed on numbers and then I broke that agreement. Um, and then a few months later we had to work through that again. And the fighting fairs really fighting right, fighting fairs, not not attacking and having humility is really important. And I will never forget those wine glasses.

Jim Cripps:

Well, I think it taught you an important lesson, you know, and it's it's great that you look back on that and I mean, what a what a great lesson to learn for $19. Speaking of build a building strong, you know, um, I would say you and I both have been on a health journey, and especially back when we first met and not long thereafter, we were far less healthy than we are today. Yeah, absolutely. And so, um, you know, I know what that my journey has kind of been like, but please share with our guests. I know you did some arms theory for a while, dialing in your diet, and it's not like life hasn't happened. I mean, you've gotten thrown some serious roadblocks and challenges and heartache along the way, but how's the health journey?

El Lagutin:

It's going really well. So, at my heaviest I was 255. Um, I'm I'm down to 185, 183. I, I've still got about 10 more pounds that I'd like to get to do. Um, it it's been. It's been hard. Um, I think the the the easiest part for me was switching up my diet. Like, I went out, I did keto for a long time, sure, and then I got bored with it and so I gained a little bit of weight back and then now I'm just trying to watch portions now and just try to eat smarter. I don't always make the right decisions on that, sure, eat smarter. I don't always make the right decisions on that. But, um, it is seeing my dad, um, go through the health struggles that he went through. I have promised myself that I don't. I don't want to do that Like I don't. You know, I want to enjoy life a little bit more.

Jim Cripps:

Um, but I remember us having those conversations, cause it was like he's a doctor, he knows better, and no, but you can't. He's a doctor, he knows better, no, but you can't make your parents do anything.

El Lagutin:

Well, that, and doctors are the worst patients, let's just be honest. So I want to be able to enjoy that style, that kind of life, even the older I get. And number one is I got tired of being the fattest dad at the baseball field, um, I, I got tired of um. When, when it was time to do the dads versus kids, to be the slowest dad on the field, um, I got. I got tired of that, you know. And I got tired of just not being able to, you know, be comfortable in my own skin, um, and so I'm trying to get to get there. It's still a work in progress, oh yeah.

Jim Cripps:

We're, I mean, and it will be forever? Um, because health is. You know, health is constantly evolving, because we're getting older and so we have to do things differently. Uh, but it's about trying to get that health span and that lifespan to match up so you don't end up sick the last 10 years of your life or not able to play with your grandkids.

Chris Neville:

Health's been really important for me as trying to continuously always develop my own mentality and throughout corporate world and entrepreneurial world and the struggle and mentality that it takes to get through those and having resilience to get through those. I kind of neglected my health for a long time.

Chris Neville:

Same here I think some of us do, most of us do so really just being able to get back consistent, starting slow, you know, utilizing my friends and network to be, have accountability partners and go and create group threads where it's like, hey, I did this today, we did this today, we did this today. Oh well, you're late, you know this, you know stuff like that. So where, um, that's, that's the journey that we've been on recently, and we're trying to clean up the remainder of our lives right With diet and exercise, you know stuff like that. So, um, I would say, though, what's kept Kayla and I both in shape at the way we are is you sports and movement. We don't sit still for more than probably two hours a day, really, you know, and that's probably at nine to 11 PM for the most part. So it's go, go, go all the time.

Jim Cripps:

That's cool. Back up to June 22nd of this year, uh you and I both uh were heavier than we are now. Yes and uh, we got that way on accident, meaning we chose not to make better choices and we let work and family and being busy and all kinds of things be excuses.

Quinton Horner:

And chicken wings and Mexican and bourbon, yeah.

Jim Cripps:

Yeah, Definitely tortilla chips. And man, we started talking. This had been kind of early or mid-June and I said, man, why don't you do this animal based diet with me and let's knock it out? And you jumped full on board and any idea how much weight you've lost?

Quinton Horner:

Maybe, maybe 30 pounds, something like that. But that that's my MO. Okay, I can't half anything. No, no, all in. It's like listen, if we're going to run a marathon, let's run the marathon. Yeah, why take two weeks to do something when you can do it in one week?

Jim Cripps:

Yeah, it's like I don't want to practice it, I want to just go do it. That's it, yeah. So what's next on the health side?

Quinton Horner:

Well, I'm still doing it and I like it, the variety of it, and you know, like you said, it's mainly I guess it's kind of like a keto thing Try to eat under 25 carbs a day and 200 grams of protein, which is work. It is work, man, it's work. It's laborious at times. What's been your highest protein day? Probably like 250 or something like that, but that's when I just have like a bunch of leftover meat and I'm like it's going to spoil. I'll just eat this bag of meat for dinner. You know it's depressing. It's not much for family meals. You know you don't sit out at the table and you know they're having like lasagna and I'm having a bag of bowl of meat over here.

Jim Cripps:

But it is high quality meat. It is now it is grass fed, grass finished.

Quinton Horner:

Jim and I took our relationship to a new level. We bought a cow. Yes, we did the same cow.

Jim Cripps:

Went to the middle of nowhere, Kentucky, to pick it up, right.

Quinton Horner:

So you know a funny thing too. I haven't told you this. But Jim's also like hey man, you need to be taking these vitamins. Like okay, I'll take a vitamin. He's like no, it's, he's 13.

Quinton Horner:

I'm like dad gum man Like send me a list. He's like I'll do better than that, I'll put it in your Amazon cart. So he puts it in my Amazon card. He like creates this page and all I it was click accept or whatever. So I did. I take these 13 pills. Meanwhile, I've got a five-year-old daughter and a six-month-old son now and they're in daycare and with that comes germs and sickness regularly. So Kelly, my wife, is taking this vitamin. It's like three pills. She's like Quentin, you've got to take these pills, right, because I start getting sick and it's just, it's a little bit. You get full on sick. You need to take these three pills. And I'm like, ah, she's like what is it? Jimmy tells you take 13 pills and you take 13 pills. I'm your wife telling you to take three and you won't take them. What kind of pull does Jim have over you? So that's the current battle in our house is why I don't take her three pills compared to your 13. And I'm just like, babe, I'm a creature of habit.

Jim Cripps:

All right, I do the same thing to Emily. I'm like here's your new vitamins. And she's like, oh, okay.

Jim Cripps:

Now so if we were going to do something huge for charity and we were going to have a celebrity bowling match, you got to pick four team members to bowl with you and a commentator, and the whole point of this thing is to raise the most money for charity. I mean, we've had some crazy ones like uh miles throughout. Uh, fred flinstone okay, bob went with. You know the great, uh, the great players from the different eras, um, so, alive or dead celebrity or somebody you know who's on the team. I think you do have some people that are like I think a good person, he's a bowler, he's a good bowler actually too. He's Mookie Betts oh, absolutely, and a local guy, that's easy right.

Jim Cripps:

He just got another World Series ring. I think he's got three rings now, which is insane.

Quinton Horner:

That's, that's easy, right, like he just got another world series ring. He's got three rings now, which is insane, that's right, but that's a I mean, that's a great one. He's gonna get a big draw. No clue, if they're bowlers, doesn't matter. Uh, tiger woods, just an intriguing individual to me.

Jim Cripps:

Um, he was on virgil's, by the way. He was on Virgil's, by the way. Shocker, let's do Frank Sinatra Anybody throughout history, throughout history oh, okay, okay.

El Lagutin:

So JFK, okay yeah.

Jim Cripps:

That's good.

James Cripps:

Yeah, man, man, I think you gotta go you bring people to the event, I'll be there.

El Lagutin:

Yeah, okay, all right tiger woods and the last one. You're gonna laugh, but I just really want to ask him a lot of questions. P Diddy, oh wow, I got to know. I want to know the truth on that. I want to hear some of that.

Jim Cripps:

You get to pick a commentator.

Quinton Horner:

You know what I like? The guy who was on Holy Moly, who's also the sportscaster guy I forget his name, he's called a few Titans games. Anyway, he's an NFL sportscaster guy.

El Lagutin:

I'm going to say Barack Obama. Okay, all right.

Jim Cripps:

Barack Obama's going to commentate.

El Lagutin:

Just because I think he does very well in his public speaking. Okay, and he would bring in a lot for the celebrity, for the charity.

Jim Cripps:

I mean just the most live event. Yeah, he needs somebody. You gotta have somebody who DJ Khaled, DJ Khaled. I could just see him. I could just see him doing it. That'd be fun. That'd be a lot of fun. That's awesome If you had one bit of advice out there to give to somebody that's watching this podcast right now and they're feeling stuck, or they're feeling maybe that they picked the wrong career path, or maybe that they don't have control over how their life is going, or their happiness level, or maybe their health. Um, what is, what's the advice you give to them right now?

Quinton Horner:

First of all, if you're in a job that you're not happy with, like, talk to your employer. I mean, they're, they're, they're people, right, they want what's best for you, because what's best for you is best for them. So it's good to have that open line of communication. You know, maybe they have an idea of something else you can do. Maybe they, you know, will encourage you to go do something else. If they know you're miserable, they're not going to want you to hang around Not good for office morale. But there's other reasons. And the other thing is, really do some thinking about what it is that is your skill set. I mean, before you asked me two months ago if I wanted to be on your podcast, I had kind of thought about it, but just kind of like a business plan or anything else. I hadn't really written it down. I could kind of talk about it.

Quinton Horner:

But everybody has a skillset and it's not knowledge all the time, it's not book smarts. It may be how you go about doing something. It may be the compassion that you have or show something. That's still a skillset, what makes you valuable in what you do. So you know, I always tell people too that listen when I'm, when I'm disgruntled on things. I mean I like to verbalize what I don't want to call it. I'm bitching, just a bitch. But you know it's good to hear yourself say it sometimes.

Quinton Horner:

But I encourage people that aren't, that aren't happy, like before you go into a review and you just complain how do you solve it? I mean, what's your solution? You should know you better than anybody else. You know better than your employer, better than your spouse. You should know you, and if you can't tell somebody how to make better use of you, how are they supposed to do that? Yeah, so and that is not something like flipping a light switch You're not just going to say you know what, After dinner tonight I'm going to sit down and I'm going to think about me and then tomorrow I'm going to march right in there and we'll make things happen.

Quinton Horner:

Doesn't work that way, way. So spend time on yourself is to what? What is it that makes you a value add to somebody else? You know it's not like now. I've been literally within the last two weeks I'm discovering that mine is not engineering or law or anything else, that anybody else can pick up a book and pass a test and read. All right, it's bigger than that. It's people want to work with me because they've had a good experience, because of the way I've treated them, because the way I've responded to an email, or the way that I have advised them, or because they were used to having the volume-based experience and then they got a different experience with me, somebody that actually took an interest in what they were trying to accomplish. So none of those things are academic, they're all just personality.

Jim Cripps:

What advice do you give to somebody out there that's listening to this right now, that does not have a current rating but maybe has ailments that are affecting their lives? What's your number one advice to them?

James Cripps:

The first thing I would do well, everybody listening to this program that served in the military today or tomorrow, go file an intent to file first off. If you don't even think you've got anything coming, file that intent today. Then you've got a year to support it. You can get the file, fill out the sf-180, send to to St Louis. Get your records, see what happened to you in the military. You know if you've got any buddies you can talk to them. Try to remember. Did you go on sick call? If so, what for? Was it for a sore ankle, and is that ankle still bothering you today? Yeah, Does not have to be combat related, Although we discussed if you ran into a bleacher on a weekend playing football. That would be a service-connected disability.

Jim Cripps:

If it happened during your term of service.

James Cripps:

If you were in the military when you ran into that bleacher Saturday morning playing football, let's say the bleacher wasn't sitting there, it was a military jeep and you ran into that jeep and busted your kneecap. Now that's a combat-related injury because that jeep is a tactical vehicle. The bleacher would be just service-connected injury, yeah, but if it was a tactical vehicle that caused it, that's combat-related. Every injury that I got is combat-related and I never was in combat. Right is combat related and I never was in combat Right. Dawn's would be combat related because it was Agent Orange and instrumentality of war that caused our disabilities.

Jim Cripps:

What would you say is the most powerful advice you could give somebody that needs to make a decision today?

Anna DiCarlo:

Hmm, that needs to make a decision today. Hmm, I think it goes back to taking a pause and whatever you're doing, and if it's this decision on whether to move forward on something, I would ask self, just yourself, because it doesn't matter who else knows, but ask yourself why I do want to do it and why I don't want to do it. And a lot of people aren't in touch with themselves to understand, I think, that full process. So sometimes writing a page of positives and negatives right, being able to physically see those oh, I have more positives than negatives. Let's go ahead and do it. But I think really, it just comes down to practicing the pause and really examining yourself on why you didn't take the leap, why you're not starting that new venture. Are you afraid? Why are you afraid? Is it a thought process? Is it? What is it? You know what I mean. And if it's a thought of failure, who are you failing? Who are you failing now if you don't try?

Virgil Herring :

And it's so. When you're watching somebody struggle and you're delivering that message, you know it sucks it sucks for you and it sucks for them, but at the end of the day, when it's done through love, for them.

Virgil Herring :

But at the end of the day, when it's done through love maybe not immediately, but at some point, that moment will be the keystone that ends up catapulting them out of the mess that, into their next version of success, and they will never forget it. It, I would say, even if the message isn't delivered perfectly, which I would always say, there's such thing as a perfect delivery but if you're doing the best that you can this is one of another hallmark of mine be the best that you can with what you know, and whatever that is is what it is. You know, bobby Knight delivered a different message than John Wooden, but their players love them just the same. Oh yeah.

Jim Cripps:

Those players went there for that coach because that's what they needed. That's exactly right. You know I love it, and God puts us in people's lives at the right time and we just have to have the courage to do the right things. Yeah, absolutely, Team. Is Jim Cripps here with the charge for podcast? I just want to tell you I love you, I appreciate you listening, I appreciate you for subscribing and sharing the charge for podcast with people you know and you love, because that's what we're here for. We are here to share the amazing stories, the things that people have been through, the ways that they were able to improve their life, so that you can take little nuggets from theirs and help improve your story and be better tomorrow than you were today. I hope that this is the tool you needed at the right time and that you find value in the amazing guests that we bring each and every week. Thanks so much and don't forget new episodes drop every Thursday.